General_Denikin в отставке. (kremlin_curant) wrote,
General_Denikin в отставке.
kremlin_curant

It is not Holloween tale. It is only Putin's healthcare system.

         Below is the post with some comments I copied and translated in english written by a russian doctor from Moscow who boasted of defying his hospital rule and kicked the patient out of health care unit just because that guy didn't followed his instruction. And he, (obviously insane patient), also dared to teach him pharmacology. In spite everything went on in psychiatric clinic russian doctor kicked this patient out vindicating himself because he is obviously a freak.
        Most of other doctors who participated in discussion supported author of the post and revealed deep disrespect and contempts for their patients.    Somebody may ask why russian doctors have so scornfull attitude toward the ill people who actually keep medical staff alive to make money.
        My answer - this is because of government-sponsored health system, worsened by notorious russian law nihilism. No incentive for those doctors to treat patients decently.


Майкл, архангел 7-го разряда (archangel_mike7) wrote in doktor_killer,
@ 2009-10-29 21:51:00


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Wicked doctor is I. Злобный доктор я.

Today, I kicked the patient out of the hospital health care unit with a crash. Because he didn't take the 3 pills I prescribed for him, but only half dose of one of them. And because he tried to read me a lecture on psychopharmatherapy and confused classes of drugs. And just because of the fact that he is a freak. O, Lord, I feel so good ... :-)
(Сегодня с треском выставил пациента  из отделения.За то что из трёх назначенных препаратов принимал один. В половинной дозе. Через день. За то что попытался прочитать мне лекцию по психофармакотерапии. Путая классы препаратов. Просто за то что урод. Господи, хорошо-то как... :-)


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da_dzi

2009-10-29 03:02 pm (local)
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You did right thing. :) And why the patient was so gnarly? I suppose side effects tortured him to death in the first week of admission?
Правильно. :)А почему пациент такой несговорчивый оказался? Небось побочки его замучили в первые недели приёма?

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archangel_mike7

2009-10-29 03:44 pm (local)
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But side effects weren't not at all ...And it is I was gnarly, rather, not the patient. ... :-)
А побочек-то как раз и не было...А несговорчивым оказался, скорее, доктор... :-)

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saplady

2009-10-29 03:12 pm (local)
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So you wrote down in his discharge paper "for violation of hospital regime"?
Прямо так и написали "за нарушение больничного режима"

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archangel_mike7

2009-10-29 03:31 pm (local)
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Yes. Even made him sign this paper (adding a paragraph on the need to continue treatment in his medical office.)Да. Ещё и его заставил подпись под этим (с добавлением абзаца о необходимости продолжать лечение по м/ж) поставить.

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supergad

2009-10-29 03:25 pm (local)
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Report to the hospital's CEO and bring such a bugger-potzient to the court !(This is a pun. In broken russian potzient means both patient and schmack)
рапорт Главврачу, и в суд на пидараса-поцээнта!

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archangel_mike7

2009-10-29 03:33 pm (local)
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This is unnecessary. If he doesn't want to be treated in an usual health care unit - next time he will be treated in the special closed one. (i.e. in psychiatric ward)
Это лишнее. Не хочет лечиться в открытом отделении - в следующий раз будет в закрытом.

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lizkabg

2009-10-29 03:26 pm (local)
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But you explained him before why he should take those pills? Or just for him unknown pills were served in a cup?
А Вы ему объяснили до этого почему надо их принимать? Или просто ему в одной чашечке неведомые таблетки подавали?

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bgr

2009-10-29 03:35 pm (local)
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oh, sorry, let me say) What do you think, before the flight, for example, on a plane, pilots need to read educational lecture on the topic: "How the plane is arranged and why we'll not go down?
ой, простите, не удержусь )Вы как считаете, перед полетом, например, на самолете, пилоты должны проводить просветительскую лекцию на тему: "Как в самолете все устроено и почему мы с вами не упадем"?

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archangel_mike7

2009-10-29 03:36 pm (local)
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Of course everything was explained and not a once time... Almost nobody of the contemporary patients possible to give "unknown pills" to. They can distinguish the pills well on their color, shape and inscriptions. :-)
Разумеется всё объяснялось и не раз...Мало кому из нынешних пациентов удастся дать "неведомые таблетки". Они их прекрасно по цвету, форме и надписям различают. :-)

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kortna

2009-10-30 02:27 pm (local)
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Oh, you know - I always explain and not only one time. However, those patients feel that they are smarter than doctor quite a lot. I everything explain as it is, but internet and "BABUSHKA ON THE BENCH" (probably name of the russian TV broadcast) saying all sorts of horrors. Moreover, patients are often big liars. I have before discharge for a week every day telling them that "maintenance therapy should continue for at least 6 months" - and still a third of patients stop taking drugs much earlier, and when their health conditions get worse we decide whether they should be re-hospitalizated blatantly lie that "nobody tell them anything." (about taking pills)
Ой, знаете - я всегда объясняю, и не по одному разу - тем не менее, таких пациентов, которые считают, что они умнее, довольно много. Как же - то ведь Я объясняю, а всякие ужасы - ИНТЕРНЕТ и "БАБУШКА НА ЛАВКЕ" сказали. Причем пациенты такие часто еще и вруны. Я перед выпиской в течение недели каждый день рассказываю, что "поддерживающая терапия должна продолжаться в течение минимум 6 месяцев" - и все равно треть больных прекращают прием лекарств гораздо раньше, и при ухудшении состояния, при решении вопроса о повторной госпитализации, нагло врут в глаза, что им "никто ничего говорил".

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daskalidi

2009-10-29 03:30 pm (local)
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Why he lectured you in psychopharmacology? My guess this was in a psychiatric hospital? Hence, we are now in psychiatric hospitals are admitting only OBEDIENT patients? And all the others - kicked them out? 8))
Почему по психофармакологии? Я так понимаю, дело происходило в психиатрической больнице? Значит, у нас теперь в психиатрические больницы берут только АДЕКВАТНЫХ пациентов? А всех прочих -- с треском выгоняют? 8))

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archangel_mike7

2009-10-29 03:40 pm (local)
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In the departments for seu "neurosis" (department in psychiatric hospital for VIP patients, not public dangerous - yes! Particularly non-complying patients are transferred - ... To acute departments.
В открытые отделения seu "неврозов" - да! Особо неадекватных - переводят... В острые отделения.

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как пациент))
bgr

2009-10-29 03:39 pm (local)
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and what - he admitted about his non-compliancy?? I think patients should always remember what kind of medicine they take, when and in what doses). Because if doctors ask about they shouldn't confuse
а что - он вот так и признался, что несоблюдает?!?! я так считаю, пациенты всегда должны помнить, что они принимают, когда, и в каких дозах ;) а то вот спросят, и показания разойдутся

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Re: как пациент))
archangel_mike7

2009-10-29 03:42 pm (local)
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Yes, he confessed ... But this confessing I knocked almost a half hour out of him, because I could not understand the causes of treatment failure and utterly absurd combination of side effects.

Да, признался... Но это признание я из него почти полтора часа выбивал, так как не мог понять причин неэффективности терапии и совершенно нелепой комбинации побочных действий.

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dr_plasmodium

2009-10-29 04:03 pm (local)
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Is this community going right way? Give us more posts about patient-freaks! Because posts about home births fuck me completely.
Неужели сообщество реабилитируется? Даёшь больше постов про пациентов-уродов! Ибо домашние роды затрахали вконец.

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ktorr

2009-10-29 04:24 pm (local)
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I have the special phrase for cases like that: Goodbye.... contact me when you really will need my help ....
У меня на такой случай фраза есть заготовленная: Всего Вам доброго.... обращайтесь ко мне, когда вам действительно будет нужна моя помощь....

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dr_alison

2009-10-29 04:27 pm (local)
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There are too much patients like this one! "Why did you prescribe me this drug, I know for sure I don't need it!"
а таких ведь пруд пруди! "Почему вы назначили мне это, я ТОЧНО ЗНАЮ, что у меня нет показаний!"

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archangel_mike7

2009-10-29 04:59 pm (local)
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Or even more impressive: "Why did you prescribe me such an old drug?" I want a modern therapy!!!":-) Or another option ...- I will not take it! It has side effects - nausea and papular rash! - Are you sick? - *Pondering* No ...-Mmm, and rash I do not see yet ...- but it can! No, give me a different medicine!
Или более прогрессивные:
"Почему вы назначили мне такой старый препарат?! Я хочу современное лечение!!!":-)И ещё вариант...- Я не буду его принимать!!! У него побочное действие - тошнота и папулёзная сыпь!- Вас тошнит? - *задумчиво* Нет...- Да и сыпи я что-то не вижу...- Но ведь МОЖЕТ быть!!! Нет, назначьте другой препарат!

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yanjasho

2009-10-29 04:33 pm (local)
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You're working in harsh enviroment, but ... We have a department of border states - something like a luxury resort, where the middle age females tormented by life and work booked couple of months in advance. They rushing there by crowds to relax and behave themself very decently, so once again they were admitted in six months. Who are non-coplying, by definition can't be taken - for them there are six most luxurious offices with Special service. (i.e. psychiatric wards)
Как у вас сурово, однако... У нас отделение пограничных состояний - что-то вроде элитного санатория, куда запись на пару месяцев вперёд и замученные жизнью и работой тетечки среднего возраста ломятся толпами отдохнуть и ведут себя весьма прилично, чтоб ещё раз взяли через полгода. Неадекватов не берут по определению - для них есть шесть шикарнейших отделений со спецсервисом.

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From the oath of the doctor of Russia Из клятвы врача России
kremlin_curant

2009-10-30 01:18 am (local)
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- Never ever I will not refuse medical attention and will provide it with the equal diligence to sick person of any wealth, ethnicity, religion and belief; Once the patient read you a lecture he is perhaps not entirely mentally healthy. Refusing to help him, you have grossly violated the oath of a doctor of Russia.

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Re: Из клятвы врача России
archangel_mike7

2009-10-30 01:32 am (local)
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Of course he is not quite mentally healthy. It is not strangely, considering specificity of our institution. However, he was not deprived of legal capacity by court and hence had to realize the nature and public danger of his actions or to control them. In addition, he was offerd 5 (five!) variants of solutions for his non-compliance, and all of them which he happily declined. So I did not violate the oath.

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orthocefalus

2009-10-30 02:38 am (local)
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Transffer him in acute unit and "potatoes" him, "potato". Schizofrenia, I guess? What is his main syndrome? Is he in state of exacerbation? (Potato {kartoshka} is a slang in psychiatry meaning use special tortured treatment for patients with schizophrenia in soviet Russia) .
Перевести в острое и "картошки" ему, "картошки". Sch, я так понимаю? У него какой синдром ведущий? Как он в плане обострения?

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